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- 1973-12-04 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live concert
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This show has been commercially released as "Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings: Bonus CD"
Johnny B. Goode, Sugaree, Me & My Uncle, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, El Paso, Deal, Big River, Tennessee Jed, Truckin'-> Stella Blue, Around & Around Eyes Of The World-> Sugar Magnolia-> Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad-> Casey Jones, E: One More Saturday Night
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Partial; Last two songs and encore; See info file for details; master soundboard cassette > reel > pcm > dat > cdr; Seeded to etree by Jools
- Addeddate
- 2004-04-06 09:37:23
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- Identifier
- gd73-12-04pt.sbd.elliot.11799.sbeok.shnf
- Lineage
- master soundboard cassette > reel > pcm > dat > cdr
- Location
- Cincinnati, OH
- Numeric_id
- 12158
- Post_text
- This show has been commercially released as "Winterland 1973: The Complete Recordings: Bonus CD"
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- 1
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- Soundboard
- Status
- This show is no longer available, please update your links and bookmarks.
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- Cincinnati Gardens
- Year
- 1973
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(7)
Reviewer:
Mind Wondrin
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September 24, 2018 (edited)
Subject: Since correctly placed
These are the last three songs from 10Dec73 in Charlotte. Material from 4Dec73 is misplaced as archive.org/details/gd73-12-10pt.sbd.elliot.11800.sbeok.shnf ... .
Everything extant from the Charlotte show (including these 3 songs) was released on Download v8. There has never been an AUD, and some sources have listed missing songs. True, the 1st set is short, but there were other short 1st sets on this tour (also followed by long 2nd sets), and we probably have nearly an hour (without tunings cut). This is not the Charlotte Coliseum played in '89, '91, '92 & '95. This is the "Bojangles" (formerly the "Independence"), with the odd tin roof. They played it again in '79 and '84, having played just Durham for awhile. Deadbase says the SBD circulated but I never came across it and it never turned up on Archive in the modern era, so hmmm. Part of a Donna-less tour, it's known for the first Peggy-O and first split Sugar Mag. Reviewing the show itself:
First Set. In with a bang on Bertha; the solo is incredible, then Mexicali is jaw-dropping. Deal is a bit "quiet" but does keep the pulse up for a coruscating Big River. After an average Dough Knees comes a big Playing. Nice overall, maybe it's not 11/30 but I suspect some will find it matching. I would guess that on the official release there may be 1 or 2 missing, but probably not 4. My guess is a Paso and/or a Jack. Until the official release the lists were wrong regardless, so ¿quién sabe?
Second Set. I wouldn't say that Promised Land really gets going; maybe Jer was busy thinking about playing the first-ever Peggy-O. Notice that they arranged this for the key of G. After the hiatus it was moved to A. They feel their way through with Bobby missing chord changes - even Row Jimmy is a bit stumbly. The next few are average '73 until the start of the jam in Truckin', when Jer starts teasing Nobody's Fault. It foreshadows for awhile before blowin' wide into a great version. Jer uses the "mother taught me to read/I have a bible in my home" verse, staying truer to Blind Willie's soul redemption paranoia (as opposed to, say, Plant, who added the Rolling Log Blues to his version), and interestingly ends up with more lyrics than he usually sang in this era. It's great at this tempo, especially into Eyes, and check Phil. Hell, check Bobby doing his own leads. This is a night that refs '66. Though Eyes sounds close to many late '73s, it's sooo perfect. 11/14 is arguably better, but for late '73 this is up there with 11/30. Just nice. Brokedown is as good as it gets and China>Rider is stellar (including a Feelin' Groovy jam). Sugar Mag may start average but you gotta admit that Jer leaves it all on stage with the jam. And then they split off Sunshine Daydream for the first time. Bobby earns his bell bottoms on the reprise. Casey Jones is unicursal but exacting.
1st Set: B+
2nd Set: B
Overall = 4¼ stars [for the 10th]
Highlights:
Bertha - what you need
Mexicali Blues - jaw-droppingly tidy
Big River - flows to the Gulf
Nobody's Fault But Mine - teased for awhile and then sprung from the bluesy soil
Eyes of the World - there are too many great '73s (if there is such a thing)
Brokedown Palace - palate cleanser turned ace
China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider - stellar
Casey Jones - unicursal works here
Subject: Since correctly placed
These are the last three songs from 10Dec73 in Charlotte. Material from 4Dec73 is misplaced as archive.org/details/gd73-12-10pt.sbd.elliot.11800.sbeok.shnf ... .
Everything extant from the Charlotte show (including these 3 songs) was released on Download v8. There has never been an AUD, and some sources have listed missing songs. True, the 1st set is short, but there were other short 1st sets on this tour (also followed by long 2nd sets), and we probably have nearly an hour (without tunings cut). This is not the Charlotte Coliseum played in '89, '91, '92 & '95. This is the "Bojangles" (formerly the "Independence"), with the odd tin roof. They played it again in '79 and '84, having played just Durham for awhile. Deadbase says the SBD circulated but I never came across it and it never turned up on Archive in the modern era, so hmmm. Part of a Donna-less tour, it's known for the first Peggy-O and first split Sugar Mag. Reviewing the show itself:
First Set. In with a bang on Bertha; the solo is incredible, then Mexicali is jaw-dropping. Deal is a bit "quiet" but does keep the pulse up for a coruscating Big River. After an average Dough Knees comes a big Playing. Nice overall, maybe it's not 11/30 but I suspect some will find it matching. I would guess that on the official release there may be 1 or 2 missing, but probably not 4. My guess is a Paso and/or a Jack. Until the official release the lists were wrong regardless, so ¿quién sabe?
Second Set. I wouldn't say that Promised Land really gets going; maybe Jer was busy thinking about playing the first-ever Peggy-O. Notice that they arranged this for the key of G. After the hiatus it was moved to A. They feel their way through with Bobby missing chord changes - even Row Jimmy is a bit stumbly. The next few are average '73 until the start of the jam in Truckin', when Jer starts teasing Nobody's Fault. It foreshadows for awhile before blowin' wide into a great version. Jer uses the "mother taught me to read/I have a bible in my home" verse, staying truer to Blind Willie's soul redemption paranoia (as opposed to, say, Plant, who added the Rolling Log Blues to his version), and interestingly ends up with more lyrics than he usually sang in this era. It's great at this tempo, especially into Eyes, and check Phil. Hell, check Bobby doing his own leads. This is a night that refs '66. Though Eyes sounds close to many late '73s, it's sooo perfect. 11/14 is arguably better, but for late '73 this is up there with 11/30. Just nice. Brokedown is as good as it gets and China>Rider is stellar (including a Feelin' Groovy jam). Sugar Mag may start average but you gotta admit that Jer leaves it all on stage with the jam. And then they split off Sunshine Daydream for the first time. Bobby earns his bell bottoms on the reprise. Casey Jones is unicursal but exacting.
1st Set: B+
2nd Set: B
Overall = 4¼ stars [for the 10th]
Highlights:
Bertha - what you need
Mexicali Blues - jaw-droppingly tidy
Big River - flows to the Gulf
Nobody's Fault But Mine - teased for awhile and then sprung from the bluesy soil
Eyes of the World - there are too many great '73s (if there is such a thing)
Brokedown Palace - palate cleanser turned ace
China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider - stellar
Casey Jones - unicursal works here
Reviewer:
sunja
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December 5, 2008
Subject: nice
Subject: nice
well if it is the show on the bonus disk, it'd be really nice to be able to hear the whole show and not just the bits that fit on the disk... its a great
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show!
Reviewer:
Bzl
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October 9, 2005
Subject: GD Hour #888, 889.
Subject: GD Hour #888, 889.
David Gans is including most of this show in the current GD hours. Hopefully 890 finishes it off.
Reviewer:
Mark Michaels
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August 13, 2005
Subject: Who's Holdin?
Subject: Who's Holdin?
I'd sure love to hear the rest of this show....as a former Cincy Head, I have a fondness for hometown shows, especially since we never received the luxury
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of a multi-night set of shows!
The incident referred to below was several years later (79? 80? 81?) at the Who concert at Cincinnati's Riverfront Colliseum. I believe 11 fans died, most suffocated/trampled when the doors were late opening for a sold out, "festival seating" show on a cold, January night. Long live rock, rock is dead.
The incident referred to below was several years later (79? 80? 81?) at the Who concert at Cincinnati's Riverfront Colliseum. I believe 11 fans died, most suffocated/trampled when the doors were late opening for a sold out, "festival seating" show on a cold, January night. Long live rock, rock is dead.
Reviewer:
zibman
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July 9, 2005
Subject: Strange Show
Subject: Strange Show
I think I was there, drove in from Penn State. Remember that they wouldn't let us in for a long time( isn't this the same place where some people died
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at a Stone show or perhaps another group soon after?). Anyway, what I remember about the show, was that the boys kept looking at the system setup(the Wall of Sound?) and maybe it was me, but it seemed that it was moving. Could be why, they started late and ended early. Music was great, don't remember any specifics. 3 stars for the shortness of the show.
Reviewer:
1974Eyes
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November 23, 2004
Subject: The Gardens
Subject: The Gardens
I wish the rest of this show would surface. I emailed David Lemiuex and he said that the whole show was in the vault in great quality so someone is holding
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out on us. That sucks. But what is here is great.
Reviewer:
Gr8fulTed
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July 15, 2004
Subject: Short show
Subject: Short show
The Dead were way late for the Garden show: uncertain as to why. Tough to really understand other than the abbreviated 2nd set and Bobby telling us to
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talk to the promoter if we didn't like it! Lots of Frisbees flyin around. Cleveland 2 nights later a much better show.
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